DEMONS COHABITATE WITH HUMANS TO PRODUCE A SUPER HYBRIDE RACE
A) Answers for a friend at the YMCA
1) Most of the ideas about demons which are unbiblical come from the Books of Enoch. They are not trustworthy. They contradict the Bible in many places on key doctrines .
2) Angels have a range of capacities. Some are very powerful, some are not .
3) Spirits don't literally walk through dry places, they don't have legs. The language was figurative, the verb "dierchetai" was mistranslated "walk," in the KJV. It means "he goes through" (Mt 12:43).
4) The archangel Michael wouldn't dispute with the Devil, the most powerful angel. Other angels are not in view in this passage, (Jude 1:9).
5) Angels can possess humans - certainly humans can, so can angels.
6) God destroyed all mankind - including hybrids - except Noah and his family - because of such great sin. He would not have then permitted disembodied spirits of the hybrids who dominated the sinful earth before the flood, to roam around the earth on legs in dry places and to possess humans and cause more sin than ever!
Genesis chapter 6 gives four reasons why God sent the Flood:
a. 'The wickedness of man was great in the earth' (v. 5).
b.'Every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually' (v. 5).
c.'The earth was filled with violence' (v. 11).
4.'The earth...was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth' (v. 12). (All the people on earth had corrupted their way.)
7) Angels who rebelled (1/3) still to this day occupy the heavens at will, (1st and 2nd), and the earth. Spirits of humans including hybrids go to hades, (paradise or torments)
8) Angels can also be called by other names, like demons.
9) The term 'fallen angels' not in the Bible. Albeit the term connotes those angels who rebelled.
A) [Gen 6:4]:
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown"
From 'Babylon, the Eclipse of Eden', by Pastor Dan Hayden:
"...The term 'sons of God' is used of angelic beings (Job 1:6; 2:1) and, therefore, refers to fallen angels bearing children through demonically possessed women ................
The offspring were obviously supra-normal, perhaps even superhuman (Gen. 6:4), demonstrating a disruption of normal genetic patterns. Also, there is an otherwise inexplicable phenomenon of a special group of evil spirits who committed a particularly heinous crime and are now 'reserved in everlasting chains under darkness until the judgment of the great day'
[Notice that it is implied
that these angelic beings had fallen from God's grace into sin. Hence
the term which is not stipulated in the 66 books of the Bible is
nevertheless accurate of "fallen angels"]
B) [Compare Jude 1:5-6]:
1:5 NASB) "Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once
for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt,
subsequently destroyed those who did not believe.
(Jude 1:6 NASB) And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home - these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day."
C) [Compare 2 Pet 2:4]:
"For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell [= Tartarus], putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment."
hell = lit. "tartarOSas" = Tartarus, not hell but a holding compartment in the center of the Earth, "to be held for judgment" and then they will be sent to the Lake of Fire.
This event is linked by Jude to other scriptural accounts (unbelief after the Exodus, and Sodom and Gomorrah) for which he was calling Christians to 'remembrance' (see Jude 1:5 quoted above). If the 'angelic' account is a scriptural event to be remembered, as he seems to indicate, there is no reference in the Bible other than Gen 6:4 which could fulfill this scenario:
D) [Compare Gen 6:4]:
"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days - and also afterward - when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, man of renown"
The claim that angels could not produce children through humans (based upon the statement that angels in Heaven do not marry, (cf. Mk 12:25), doesn't necessarily mean that the demons of earth cannot [or could not in the past have had] sexual relations with women ......................
It is also interesting to
note that Peter links the 'angelic' incident, referred to above, with
the flood of Noah (2 Pet. 2:4-5),
E) [Compare 2 Pet 2:4-5]:
(2 Pet 2:4 NASB) "For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;
hell = lit. "tartarOSas" = Tartarus, not hell but a holding compartment in the center of the Earth, "to be held for judgment" and then they will be sent to the Lake of Fire.
(2 Pet 2:5 NASB) and
did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a preacher of
righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the
world of the ungodly;
[Notice that the ancient
world was not spared except Noah and seven of his family. So those in
the ancient world that were angelic / human hybrids were not
spared. They were killed and their spirits would not be permitted to
roam around the earth, possess humans and cause even more evil. God's
purpose was to destroy the evil and start over with Noah and his family]
And John tells us that in
the Day of the Lord, at the sixth-trumpet judgment when Babylon comes
into final remembrance before the wrath of God (Rev. 16:19), four
incarcerated demonic angels are set free from their prison in 'the
great river, Euphrates' for the purpose of slaying 'the third part of
F) [Compare Rev 9:13-15]:
(Rev 9:13 NASB) "Then the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
(Rev 9:14 NASB) one saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, 'Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.'
(Rev 9:15 NASB) And
the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month
and year, were released, so that they would kill a third of mankind."
According to Scripture, fallen angels are angels who were expelled from Heaven. The term "fallen angel" appears neither in the Bible nor in other Abrahamic scriptures, but is used of angels who were cast out of heaven or angels who sinned. Such angels are often malevolent towards humanity.
The idea of fallen angels derived from Jewish Enochic pseudepigraphy or the assumption that the "sons of God" (בני האלהים) mentioned in Genesis 6:1–4 are angels. Some scholars consider it most likely that the Jewish tradition of fallen angels predates, even in written form, the composition of Gen 6:1–4. In the period immediately preceding the composition of the New Testament, some sects of Judaism, as well as many Christian Church Fathers, identified the "sons of God" (בני האלהים) of Genesis 6:1–4 as fallen angels. The presence of these traditions in Christianity, not only in the East but also in the Latin-speaking West, is attested by the polemic of Augustine of Hippo (354–430) against the motif of giants born of the union between fallen angels and human women. Rabbinic Judaism and Christian authorities after the third century rejected the Enochian writings and the notion of an illicit union between angels and women producing giants. Christianity shifted the origin of the fallen angels towards the beginning of history. Accordingly, fallen angels became identified with angels who were led by Satan in rebellion against God and became equated with demons.
Islam also incorporates the concept of fallen angels. However, like Rabbinic Judaism, some Islamic scholars reject the concept of fallen angels, emphasizing the piety of angels by citing certain verses of the Quran. Hasan of Basra not only emphasized verses which attest absolute obedience of angels to God, but also reinterpreted verses against this view. Accordingly, he read the term mala'ikah (angels) in reference to Harut and Marut in 2:102 as malikayn (kings), depicting them as ordinary men and not as angels.
II) THE BOOK OF ENOCH
of angels who physically descended (and figuratively "fell") to Mount
Hermon is found in the Book of Enoch, which the Ethiopian Orthodox
Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church accept as biblical canon;
as well as in various pseudepigrapha. But the Book of Enoch has serious
contradictions with what the 66 books of the Bible teach
A) Second Temple period
The concept of fallen angels is mostly found in the Book of Enoch, chapters 6–9; the Qumran Book of Giants; and perhaps in Genesis 6:1–4. The reference to heavenly beings called "Watchers" originates in Daniel 4, in which there are three mentions, twice in the singular (v. 13, 23), once in the plural (v. 17), of "watchers, holy ones". The Ancient Greek word for watchers is ἐγρήγοροι (egrḗgoroi, plural of egrḗgoros), literally translated as "wakeful". In the Book of Enoch these Watchers "fell" after they became "enamored" with human women. The Second Book of Enoch (Slavonic Enoch) refers to the same beings of the (First) Book of Enoch, but in the Greek transcription as Grigori. A number of apocryphal works, including 1 Enoch (10.4), link the fall of angels transgression with the Great Deluge.
1) 1 Enoch
According to 1 Enoch 7.2 the Watchers became "enamoured" with human women and had intercourse with them. The offspring of these unions, and the knowledge they were given, corrupted human beings and the earth 1 Enoch 10.11–12. Eminent among these angels are Shemyaza their leader and Azazel. Like many other fallen angels mentioned in 1 Enoch 8.1-9, Azazel introduced men to forbidden arts, but it is Azazel who is rebuked by Enoch himself for illicit instructions as stated in 1 Enoch 13.1. According to 1 Enoch 10.6 God sent the archangel Raphael to chain Azazel in the desert Dudael as punishment. Further Azazel is blamed for the corruption of earth:
1 Enoch 10:12: "All the earth has been corrupted by the effects of the teaching of Azazyel. To him therefore ascribe the whole crime."
Treating theological issues such as the origin of evil as something
supernatural, by shifting the sinfulness of mankind and their misdeeds
to illicit angel instruction, is a unique motif found in the Book of
Enoch and not found in later Jewish and Christian theology.
2) 2 Enoch
The concept of fallen
angels is also found in the Second Book of Enoch.
2 Enoch 29:3 "Here
Satanail was hurled from the height together with his angels" - a
probable Christian interpolation according to Charlesworth's Old
The text refers to "the Grigori, who with their prince Satanail rejected the Lord of light". The Grigori are identified with the Watchers of 1 Enoch. The Grigori "went down on to earth from the Lord's throne", married women and "befouled the earth with their deeds", resulting in their confinement under the earth (2 Enoch 18:1–7) In the longer recension of 2 Enoch, chapter 29 refers to angels who were "thrown out from the height" when their leader tried to become equal in rank with the Lord's power (2 Enoch 29:1–4).
Most sources quote 2 Enoch as stating that those who descended to earth were three, but Andrei A. Orlov, while quoting 2 Enoch as saying that three went down to the earth, remarks in a footnote that some manuscripts put them at 200 or even 200 myriads. In The Old Testament Pseudepigrapha: Apocalyptic Literature and Testaments edited by James H. Charlesworth, manuscript J - taken as the best representative of the longer recension - has "and three of them descended" (p. 130); while manuscript A - taken as the best representative of the shorter recension - has "and they descended", which might indicate that all the Grigori descended, or 200 princes of them, or 200 princes and 200 followers, since it follows the phrase that "[t]hese are the Grigori, 200 princes of whom turned aside, 200 walking in their train" (p. 131).
Chapter 29, referring to
the second day of creation (before the creation of human beings), says
that "one from out the order of angels" or, according to other versions
of 2 Enoch, "one of the order of archangels" or "one of the ranks of
the archangels" "conceived an impossible thought, to place his throne
higher than the clouds above the earth, that he might become equal in
rank to [the Lord's] power. And [the Lord] threw him out from the
height with his angels, and he was flying in the air continuously above
the bottomless." In this chapter, the name "Satanail" is mentioned only
in a heading added in a single manuscript, the GIM khlyudov manuscript,
which is a representative of the longer recension and was used in the
English translation by R. H. Charles.
3) 3 Enoch
3 Enoch mentions only
three fallen angels called Azazel, Azza and Uzza. Similar to The first
Book of Enoch, they taught sorcery on earth, causing corruption. Unlike
the first Book of Enoch, there is no mention of the reason for their
fall and, according to 3 Enoch 4.6, they also later appear in heaven
objecting to the presence of Enoch.
IV) THE BOOK OF JUBILEES
The Book of Jubilees refers to the Watchers, who are among the angels created on the first day. However, unlike the (first) Book of Enoch, the Watchers are commanded by God to descend to earth and to instruct humanity. It is only after they copulated with human women that they transgressed the laws of God. These illicit unions resulted in demonic offspring, who battled each other until they died, while the Watchers were bound in the depths of the earth as punishment. In Jubilees 10.1 another angel called Mastema refers to the Watchers. He asks God to spare some of the demons, so he might use their aid to lead humankind into sin. Afterwards, he becomes their leader:
"'Lord, Creator, let some of them remain before me, and let them harken to my voice, and do all that I shall say unto them; for if some of them are not left to me, I shall not be able to execute the power of my will on the sons of men; for these are for corruption and leading astray before my judgment, for great is the wickedness of the sons of men.' (10:8)
Unlike in The (first) Book of Enoch, although the existence of supernatural evil is affirmed, evil is not introduced first by the fall of angels. Further, the fallen angels and demons seem to have no power independent from God but only act within his framework.
V) THE ORIGIN OF DEMONS
Angels mating with humans is against God's commands and is a cursed action, resulting in the wrath of God coming upon Earth. [It is contended by some that] Demons originate from the evil spirits of the giants that are cursed by God to wander the earth, until their final judgment. Many people assume that fallen angels are the same as demons. I don't believe this is true for several reasons.
[Actually this contradicts God's judgment upon all of humanity except for Noah and his family. There is a question of God's sovereignty and judgment should God have let the spirit's of the hybrid humans continue to possess humans and do even more evil than they had in the world before the Flood.
The most common alternate
explanation for the origin of the demons is that when the Nephilim of
Genesis 6 were destroyed in the Flood, their disembodied souls became
the demons. While the Bible does not specifically say what happened to
the souls of the Nephilim when they were killed, it is unlikely that
God would destroy the Nephilim in the Flood only to allow their souls
to cause even greater evil as the demons. The most biblically
consistent explanation for the origin of the demons is that they are
the fallen angels, the angels who rebelled against God with Satan.]
First, fallen angels are
much more powerful than demons.
[That has not been proved by Scripture. The ranks of angelic beings have different powers]
We're told by Jesus to cast out demons. Yet, Jude cautions us in our confrontations with fallen angels. He says,
[Compare Jude 1:8-9]:
(Jude 1:8 NASB) "In the
very same way,
these dreamers slander celestial beings.
(Jude 1:9 NASB) But even
Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses,
did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said,
'The Lord rebuke you' "
It is maintained that it is proper to rebuke demons but not fallen angels.
[Note that it is the Devil
/ Satan who Jude declares the archangel Michael did not dare accuse,
not all demonic angels]
Fallen angels have their
own celestial bodies, therefore
they have no need to inhabit bodies.
[There may be other reasons for the "fallen angels" to possess human bodies, like to control them toward their own evil ends of challenging the sovereignty of God]
Yet demons seek bodies desperately; and, if need be, they will settle for the bodies of animals (Mark 5:12-13).
[Perhaps to do it for evil
to challenge the sovereignty of God]
Fallen angels have the ability to fly, but demons can only walk. Jesus says concerning demons, "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none" (Matthew 12:43, KJV). Demons walk, fallen angels fly.
[The language "walk through dry places" is figurative. They move as spirit beings can move]
Demons are the powers of this dark world, while fallen angels are the
spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
[Demonic angels occupy with limitations both the heavenly and earthly realms. The expanse of the heavens is more than the third heaven]
Paul differentiates between these two classes of beings: For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. (Ephesians 6:12).
[There is no sense here
that there is differentiations between two classes of beings. The
Demonic angels occupy both unless specifically stipulated in Scripture.
Enoch's writings are not inspired ]
From the facts of the Bible concerning demons, they are disembodied spirits; They once had bodies but lost them. This explains why they hunt for bodies. They crave bodies to inhabit.
Many ministers have understood the difference between fallen angels and demons, but they haven’t figured out where they came from. Most of them have speculated that demons are the disembodied spirits of a preadamic race, although they can't prove this from the Bible or from tradition.
[There is no preadamic race, all humanity descends from the first man and woman of creation Gen 1-3]
I believe since demons are evil spirits that we must confront, God must have told us about them. Surely, He doesn't leave us without telling us where they come from. I believe the Bible definitely informs us as to the origins of demon spirits.
[What one believes is not necessarily true. We must not impose upon the Bible what is not there]
So what are demons? Demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim who are mentioned in Genesis chapter six. The Nephilim are the offspring of fallen angels and humans. The Nephilim were destroyed in the flood, yet their spirits remained on the earth.
[Note: If their spirits /
souls remained on earth to cause continuance of evil; then what was the
purpose of God destroying them in the Flood? Obviously this is in contradiction with the Bible]
This view is the oldest belief among the Jewish people. It is a belief that the apostles held to as well.
[????? Where in the Bible???]
Let me prove why I believe this.
The giants who are born from the [union of] the spirits and the flesh shall be called evil spirits upon the earth because their dwelling shall be upon the earth and inside the earth. Evil spirits have come out of their bodies. Because from the day that they were created from the sons of God they became Watchers: their first origin is the spiritual foundation. They will become evil upon the earth and shall be called evil spirits. The dwelling of the spiritual beings of heaven is heaven; but the dwelling of the spirits of the earth, which are born upon the earth, is in the earth. (1 Enoch 15:8-10)
This passage sounds like it came from Greek mythology. But this should not surprise us because another name for evil spirits is the demon, and the word "demon" comes from Greek mythology. E.W. Vines will confirm this. He writes concerning the Greek word daimon, which is translated demon in the New Testament as being derived "among pagan Greeks, an inferior deity
[Not in the Bible]
When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God ( Fallen Angels ) saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. Then the Lord said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years." The Nephilim ( Offspring of These Unions ) were on the earth in those days and also afterward when the sons of God (Fallen Angels) went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. (Genesis 6:1-4)
The name "Nephilim" means giants. The union of the sons of God ( Fallen Angels ) and the daughters of men produced a race of giants. This scripture is written in a literary technique called Hebrew Parallelism, which means that the identical thing is said in two different ways. This means morning stars are the same as sons of God. Satan once was called the morning star (Lucifer), which identifies him with the angels. He was among the morning stars that sang for joy when God created the universe. All the angels are also called the sons of God.
Demons Are The Spirits of The Nephilim - Half Human & Half Angel
Notice that the Nephilim were on the earth in those days. Those days were the days preceding the flood. However, Genesis also says that they were on the earth afterward. In other words, they were on the earth after the flood. Genesis 7:21 says that all mankind perished in the flood, so how could they have survived the flood?
Let's go back to Genesis 6:4. The Nephilim were on the earth after the flood. Their bodies were destroyed by the flood, but their spirits remained.
[Genesis 6:4 (NASB)
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.]
These Nephilim were half human and half angel. We know that when a human dies, he goes either to heaven or hell. But what about these beings who are neither fully human or fully angelic? Where would they go when they died?
They went nowhere. They stayed on the earth. They are the demon spirits that walk through, the earth, looking for bodies to inhabit. They know that one day they will be cast into the pit when their time comes. Demons cried out to Jesus, "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?" (Matthew 8:29).
It is important to understand the difference between demons and fallen angels because you deal with them differently. You cast out demons, but you pray to God for Him to deal with the fallen angels, just like Daniel did in Daniel 10.
[Not specifically stipulated in Scripture]
In concluding this article, is there anything practical which we can learn from knowing the origin of demons? Is there any down-to-earth benefit in knowing that demons are the offspring of fallen angels who had sex with women? Yes, demons are like their fathers; they gravitate more to sexual sins than to any other kinds of sins.
[Not stipulated in Scripture]
• If you want to open yourself up to demons, then practice sexual immorality, and demons will hang around you. Demons are sex-hungry.
[Not stipulated in Scripture]
Question: "Are the demons
the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim?"
Answer: As a background, please read our articles on “Who were the sons of God in Genesis 6:1-4?”, and “Who were the Nephilim?” With the understanding that the sons of God were the fallen angels, and that the Nephilim were the hybrid offspring of the union between the fallen angels and human women, the question then arises, What happened to the spirits of the Nephilim after they were killed, whether by the flood, or in the case of the possible post-flood Nephilim (Genesis 6:4; Numbers 13:33), after the flood?
Some speculate that the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim remained on the earth and became what we now refer to as demons. The presumption is that, as angelic-human hybrids, the spirits of the Nephilim would have been different from the human soul-spirit, having the ability to remain present in this world despite no longer having a physical body. This would possibly explain the desire the demons have to possess human beings, thus gaining control over a physical body. This would also make some sense from the perspective of the fallen angels, who are outnumbered 2-1 by the holy angels, giving them a good reason to seek to increase their ranks.
[Too much speculation. Irrelevant to the destiny of believers in Christ of the human race. It is plausible that the angels that rebelled are also called demons]
The Nephilim explanation for the origin of the demons is partly the result of a misunderstanding of who exactly are the “spirits in prison” in 1 Peter 3:19 (see also Jude 6). Many misunderstand the “spirits in prison” to be all of the fallen angels who rebelled against God. If all of the fallen angels are imprisoned, then there must be an alternate explanation for the existence of demons; thus, the need for the Nephilim explanation. However, clearly, not all of the fallen angels are imprisoned. Satan, the leader of the angelic rebellion against God, is not imprisoned. Why would God allow the rebel leader to remain free but then confine the angels who followed Satan in the rebellion? No, it makes more sense to understand the “spirits in prison” as the fallen angels who participated in an additional rebellion, viz., the sons-of-God/daughters–of-men incident. The fallen angels who mated with human females are the ones who are imprisoned. There is no solid biblical reason to reject the idea that the demons are the same beings as the fallen angels.
The idea that the demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim is also drawn from the book of Enoch, which goes into great detail regarding the Nephilim. We have to remember that, while the book of Enoch contains some truth (Jude 14), it is not the inspired, inerrant, and authoritative Word of God . We should never base a belief exclusively, or even primarily, on extra-biblical literature.
So, with no need to explain the existence of
demons outside of the fallen angels, and with no clear evidence in
Scripture for the spirits of the Nephilim continuing on Earth, there is
no solid basis on which to identify the demons with the spirits of the
Nephilim. While the idea is possible, it cannot be derived explicitly
from Scripture, and therefore should not be considered the best
explanation of the origin of the demons.
Question: "Are demons fallen angels?"
Answer: When exactly God created angels is open for debate, but what is known for sure is that God created everything good because God, in His holiness, cannot create something sinful. So when Satan, who was once the angel Lucifer, rebelled against God and fell from heaven (Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 28), one third of the angelic host joined his insurrection (Revelation 12:3-4,9). There is no doubt these fallen angels are now known as the demons.
We know that hell was prepared for the devil and his angels, according to Matthew 25:41: “Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.’” Jesus, by using the possessive word his makes it clear that these angels belong to Satan. Revelation 12:7-9 describes an end-times angelic battle between Michael and "his angels" and the devil and "his angels." From these and similar verses, it is clear that demons and fallen angels are synonymous.
Some reject the idea that the demons are the fallen angels due to the fact that Jude verse 6 declares the angels who sinned to be "bound with everlasting chains." However, it is clear that not all of the angels who sinned are "bound," as Satan is still free (1 Peter 5:8). Why would God imprison the rest of the fallen angels, but allow the leader of the rebellion to remain free? It seems that Jude verse 6 is referring to God confining the fallen angels who rebelled in an additional way, likely the "sons of God" incident in Genesis chapter 6.